UPDATED 6/1 (Rotten Egg: Burning Bridges in Bridgetown)
Update 6/1: A letter from Easter Egg:
Dear city of Portland,
Let me first start by saying that Portland is a great city. We are lucky enough to live in a town with so many great people, so many great scenes, and something fun to do every single day and night. I am very proud to say that I have been born and raised in SE Portland my entire life. I couldn’t ask for a better community. We have one of the most diverse and bangin’ music scenes around, and for me to bash on anyone in the local music community was wrong, me bashing on the fans of local music was wrong, and me bashing on certain people personally was most wrong. There is nothing I can say that can justify my actions, and I know I took everything too far. I am obviously humiliated by it all, and I want everyone to know that I never meant for all of this to happen. I have learned the power of my words, and have learned to think twice before saying negative things towards anyone or anything that doesn’t deserve so. I regret everything, and if I could change it, I would.
Honestly, my main reasons for not wanting to perform at this show was because I was afraid to fail, but with the way I handled things, I still failed. I failed more than I possibly could have at the Crystal Ballroom. I failed more than if everyone were to boo me off the stage or if everyone had left the dance floor. There couldn’t have been a worse way for me to handle things, especially since these people were trying to help me out. I sincerely appreciate everyone that has ever helped me out, and I need t o find better ways to show it.
This experience has taught me many things. I’ve learned that I am not invisible. Anyone that I can harm, they can harm me right back. I’ve learned that my words can ruin everything for me, and that I need to be more positive with the things that I say. I’ve learned to appreciate any and all help that anyone wants to give me. The city is full of talent, and for someone to think that I stand out, is amazing. I am truly honored and thankful for anyone that sees any sort of potential in me, and especially for anyone to go as far as to try and build upon my potential. I hope that the city of Portland gives me a second chance, I don’t want to be the bad guy.
I’m not glad that this situation happened, but I know for a fact that it will help me become a better artist, and most importantly, a better person.
Thank you Portland, for taking the time to read this and hopefully reconsider any negative thoughts you have of me.
For my part I’d just like to say that I think that’s really big hearted stuff for Nathan to say, and I think everyone involved or otherwise affected by this whole thing should take it to heart and take it at face value. I’m convinced that this is a sincere apology and not something meant to save face.
Also, there are excerpts from my own rant that probably did more to stoke the fire than they did to help things. With hindsight I wish I would have phrased some of it differently and kept my emotions completely out of the equation. So for that, I feel like I owe Nathan and the LocalCut readership an apology as well. My apologies. Now back to our regularly scheduled blogging…
-Casey
The older, uglier, stuff:
I call myself “editor” of LocalCut because I like the attention and occasional hate mail that the title brings, but today I’m going to write my first and maybe only official online “editorial.” So let me extra-stress that the following is not the opinion of LocalCut or the Willamette Week staff or anyone else. It’s all me, and it’s in open letter form.
Dear Easter Egg,
In this week’s WW, I ran a Q&A with Galia Slayen, the young woman behind the Music in the Schools benefit at the Crystal Ballroom. Slayen has put together a pretty amazing cross-section of Portland pop, electronic music and hip-hop in an attempt to raise cash to help Portland-area schools re-introduce music classes in their curriculum. She even roped in Seattle’s Blue Scholars, no small feat for a 17-year-old. And in the months she’s been putting the show together, Slayen would occasionally contact me to see whether I thought certain additions to the bill were a good or bad idea. My response, across the board, was that I knew nothing about booking shows and was generally the wrong person to ask. True story.
But when a previous host fell through and Slayen asked whether I thought Easter Egg seemed like a good artist to host the event and spin (I know you don’t actually “spin,” but whatever) between bands, I thought it sounded perfect: A young rising Portland remix/mashup star playing to a really stoked young audience. And you’re not too far removed from high school yourself, I thought maybe you’d know as well as anyone how dire the state of school arts programs are. So I told her that you were someone members of the local music community were all pretty excited about.
Slayen didn’t mention you again until today, when she asked my advice. Easter Egg was being incredibly difficult, asking about cash though he was repeatedly told that the event was a benefit show without much of a budget, saying he didn’t want to play in connection with the night’s hip-hop acts, and some other pretty lame things. She said you had agreed to the show but kept talking shit on it. Talking shit on a benefit show. That’s cold. Then you sent out this MySpace bulletin to your 1,300 friends:
I think I’m doing that YACHT/Blue Scholars show tomorrow.
Body: I don’t really want to, but I think they need me to be the guy who “keeps people from getting bored in between bands.”
I haven’t verified this yet though, I said I had to think about it, but I might as well do it just to get my name out. I think I’d be reaching the wrong crowd though.”
First off: You’re way too young and inexperienced to be talking about “the wrong crowd.” You should be humbled and honored to have any crowd, let alone be asked to play the Crystal Ballroom as your third show ever. You should be focused on making good music, not worrying about your fucking demographic. And if you “don’t really want to” play for what could well be a thousand people—most of them young people who are supporting a good cause—who do you want to play to? You should have had the grace to just say no to the show if it was something that didn’t fit your image.
Strike one, strike two, I should count you putting “Crystal Ballroom w/ YACHT, Blue Scholars, and some other hipster bullshit” on your calendar as strike three but you know, I was 21 once and probably thought I deserved a lot more attention than I really did, too. I probably felt pretty entitled enough to say dumb stuff in a public forum without really thinking. Slayen asked me what I thought she should do, already pretty sure she was going to cut you from the show. I gave my usual blanket response: I’m not good at this kind of thing, but if someone said they “didn’t really want to” play the show, she probably shouldn’t put them through the horrible trauma of it all. And she did. It was the only thing she could have done. If you’re a NBA GM, you don’t draft a basketball player that says your city smells like shit. Nothing good can come of that. You already expressed your disinterest in the other performers, the organizers and the audience. Then, again missing an opportunity to show some humility or grace, you posted this:
I got canned from the YACHT/Blue Scholars show.
Body: Apparently they don’t “appreciate” what I said about the show, and don’t “appreciate” that I’m “bashing the cause.”I never “bashed the cause” (the cause being some fundraiser or something) but I did bash the fact that they needed me to play a 15 minute set here and there between some suck acts that I don’t care about. They could just pop a Radiohead CD on during the band’s transition times, I don’t see why they’d need me there. I don’t think they know what kind of shows I regularly do.
Easter Egg is all about:
Bros that I normally wouldn’t wanna kick it with but for some reason they dig my shit
Hipsters that I normally wouldn’t kick it with but for some reason they dig my shit
Getting really drunk and dancing around the place
Making sure everyone else would get really drunk and dance around the place
Not being background music but rather being in charge of what people are dancing to for the night
So whoever was in charge of this show (I think it was a bunch of high school hipsters that really got into “indie music” after Garden State reached it’s peak but eventually pulled out of that to listen to Justice and M.I.A. and started rockin’ neon clothing) I send a big FUCK YOU.
No offense to the acts that are playing this show though. I sorta like Typhoon.
<3fuck ya'll
Were you “really fucking drunk” when you wrote this?
Nononono, see Easter Egg is about shitting on hard-working local bands and artists that it’s pretty clear you never even bothered to listen to (”no offense”? are you serious? you called them “suck acts” and “hipster bullshit”!). If you have any love for hip-hop, which I would have assumed a kid who mashes Three 6 Mafia and Jigga might (though I’m a bit more skeptical now), why would you wouldn’t bash young local hip-hop groups before ever talking to them or listening to them. And if you have any desire to ever share a bill with Bobby Birdman (via the magic of the internet, I can see you are a big fan), you might consider not calling his boy Yacht a “suck act.”
But this goes beyond the obvious bridge burning you’re doing with artists and promoters (heard a couple other stories about you today, too, and they weren’t friendly). This all comes back around to the kind of music community Portland is.
It’s a tight-knit city. If you bitch and wine and act unappreciative to one promoter who was nice enough to let you on a bill, or call a club the “worst venue ever” (again, magic of the internet), word will get around that maybe you’re not the easiest guy to deal with. And folks will (rightly) just stop dealing with you.
More importantly, it’s about the love. Whatever hype exists about Portland as the “scene of tomorrow,” people playing music here today aren’t genuinely trying to become the next big thing. They play music because they love being around the other great musicians this city has to offer, and because they love the city. Period. Sometimes no one shows up to your show. You don’t complain and find someone to blame about it, you buck up and take your licks and keep making the best music you can so that next time will be different. You meet a lot of great people who love their jobs, love their bands, love the nightlife and together you all make the best of it. Or you stay in your basement and keep perfecting your craft.
No one owes you anything. And in a town like Portland—where great artists are a dime a dozen and many deserving artists have a difficult time ever making a dime—no one is going to give you anything. Your character is as important as any mixtape you put together if you intend on finding any sort of audience here. I truly believe that. If this city was made up of musicians with as little character as you have shown—with the lack of respect that you have shown for those who have tried to help you out as a young artist—I would hang up my hat in a second.
You owe every artist on that bill, not to mention Galia Slayen and the promoters/artists who have tried to help you out (in Slayen’s case, she months of work for absolutely no pay and a lot of lip from an entitled kid she’ll never listen to again) a big apology. I don’t know what happened to you that gave you this chip on your shoulder, or what makes you think you can talk to other artists and promoters the way you have, but I’m proud to say that I live in a city that won’t put up with it. Move to L.A. or stay at home on your computer if you want to be a dick. If you want to perform in Portland, though, you best figure out that you can’t treat people like shit.
Yours,
Casey Jarman
Before posting this, I asked for Easter Egg’s Response. Here it is:
Although you’re coming off as a dick without hearing my side of the story, I’ll still respond.
Of course everyone is going to take Galia’s side. She’s a young chick who is gathering lots of big times acts and yada yada yada that’s cool, I couldn’t personally do it myself, but that’s neither here nor there. Anyways, yeah, it’s easy to take her side and make me seem like the dick that no one wants to work with, but here’s what I have to say.
I never straight up told her that I wasn’t cool with the show. I never bashed the cause at all, or any of the artists in general. I told her straight up that I wasn’t comfortable with doing the show due to the fact that I honestly don’t think I’d be reaching the right crowd, and that I’m not used to being some sort of “background music” guy. Not to build myself up or anything, but I’m used to being the guy who rocks the dance party all night, not the guy who keeps people from getting bored in between sets. Money isn’t even an issue to me, I’ve been payed only twice for all the shows I’ve done. Hell, I’ve even played a high school dance because I knew the kids wanted to see me. I’m not about money, I did an interview yesterday with a dude from Seattle sound magazine and talked to Leigh (HR Paperstacks) on the phone today, and they both asked why I don’t sell my music.
“You stand out over a lot of other kids who do this sort of thing right now, you could make a lot of money off your music.”
I never wanted to sell it because I never wanted to make this a career. I have a good day job and I’m honestly doing this for fun.
It’s weird to think that I do this live for people now, and that people all over the world hear my stuff, and that I get recognized
around Portland for this. So anyways, I got that out, money isn’t a thing, I just simply asked because I didn’t really want to do it but if they paid me, I’d consider it more.It’s not too difficult that I’d want to turn down a show right? Or am I the only one in Portland to have ever turned down a show? I am pretty hard on myself and am very picky about which crowds I want to play for because I get very nervous. I almost turned down the official MIA after party at Branx last weekend because I thought the crowd would hate me. Turns out they didn’t, but I honestly don’t even want to bother with a crowd that I think wouldn’t enjoy me.
Sorry if I repeat myself (my memory is fucked so I probably will throughout my response) but if I would have gotten my own set to really show what I’m capable of, then I would have done the show without even hesitating, but to show up to be the guy to play a couple songs between sets seemed sort of lame to me. They might as well have played iTunes.
Also, I’m not bashing any of the acts, In all honesty, I’m not huge on any of them. I have Typhoon’s first album, and it’s not bad, but I’m not into hip hop from the Pacigic NW and I’m not huge into YACHT. I was told that I’m probably the only person in Portland that’s under the age of 30 not to like YACHT, but I don’t really give. Not that I hate the dude, but I just don’t listen ever.
“Word may get around that I’m not the easiest guy to deal with.” Not true. If it’s a show I’m excited to do, I’ll jump all over it and
won’t give any sort of hassle at all. I’ll easily take off time from work and do anything I can to make the show a success. I didn’t think I’d get so much drama for saying that I’m debating to do this show. I’ve actually turned down pay from a lot of people just because I wanted to let them know that I was flattered and honored that they even had me play in the first place.I personally am not too concerned about playing for “huge crowds.” The first few shows I pkayed were house parties for friends and those were great. I’m still having fun playing club shows and such but I don’t have this crazy dream of going on tour and headlining huge shows. If a friend asks me to play their house show, I think that’s amazing. Right now, I’m not willing to take anything I can get. I’ve learned to be picky, and why? Because I’ve dealt with some horrible shows. Some horrible parties that I knew would suck anyways, but I played them for fun. By horrible, I mean a huge crowd of jocks complaining that I wasn’t playing enough mainstream hyphy shit for them, and that “no one could dance to what I was playing” even though half the room was.
I honestly don’t feel like I owe anyone an apology. My phone call with what’s her face today was quick and simple. She said she didn’t “appreciate me bashing the cause” and I said okay. I didn’t say anything rude to her or any of the acts. Portland is very diverse, and I understand that, but I’ve just grown picky to what I want to deal with. It does have a lot to do with being too hard on myself and insecure. I’m honestly scared to play for any crowd that doesn’t consist of my friends or people that I know for a fact will like me.
So go ahead and bash me in the paper, whatever gets your readers interested, I don’t really care. I gave my 2 cents and I know that you’re making a mountain out of a mole hill.
And two quick addendums from Easter Egg:
By the way, Crystal wouldn’t be my 3rd show ever. You’re getting your facts wrong. I have a lot more to say about this but I gotta hit the bed soon. I probably won’t bother though, go ahead and post whatever you have to say in localcut.
Any publicity is good publicity, right? I’m tired of getting good reviews, I’d like to see a bad one for once.
<3yours truly, east'r egg.
And lastly:
I also told that chick I was flattered that I came to mind. It is a big show, indeed, but sometimes, I just have to turn things down.
I did actually thank her, but, no apology is needed. I thought we were done after our phone call. I didn’t know that someone like you would take things to this level. Are you only bringing this up so you have something to talk about for your blog? Or because it actually does concern you? Am I really the most difficult person in Portland? Am I really “stupid” for turning down such a “big show?” Maybe I’m not all about fame. In all honesty, I’d like to open for some acts I’m really into, but I’m not into this show at all. Sorry bro.
I’m so not the guy you should be saying sorry to.
Like I told the Egg over on his blog, I actually would have altered my original post a bit after getting his input, which at least helped me understand some of where he was coming from. But he beat me to the punch and the entire email I sent him on his MySpace blog. So I didn’t alter my original rant, just included his responses instead. Not even going to mention what he said about me, but subsequent MySpace bulletins had him calling Galia Slayen a “bitch,” and Yacht fans “gay.” So, I’m done venting now. I wouldn’t usually use this site as a place for high school-style drama, but I thought some of dude’s actions were above and beyond. I’m really just sorta bummed. Conversation starter anyway, huh?
Blast away…
Links:
Easter EggSpace
And, for old times’ sake, Easter Egg’s excellent remix of Ratatat’s “Cherry,” posted by Nilina back in February. See my comments to gauge my then excitement level:
Download audio file (cherry.mp3)
Photo from EasterSpace.









NILINA MASON-CAMPBELL
says:I wish this post would have included his other even more offensive bulletins and blog posts that have since been deleted or altered.
It’s not about turning down the show, it’s about trashing people as you do it. Trashing people you don’t even know.
And it wasn’t Casey who took it to this level. It was Nathan. He made this an ugly situation by making it a situation period.
So referring to a benefit for Portland Public School as “hipster bullshit” isn’t bashing?
Making light of Galia by way of “So for real though, fuck that bitch Galia for even trying to can me from a show I didn’t even agree to do in the first place. Sorry Galia, but I’m all about fun, not shitty pretentious hipster fests” isn’t bashing?
Saying: “I can’t play for YACHT fans because they’re too gay…” isn’t bashing?
I am so appalled by this all. It’s so ugly and for what? What was the point? That’s what plagues me.
Thank you Casey for posting this.
Posted @ May 30th, 2008 at 6:47 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkEaster Egg
says:No publicity is bad publicity, I guess.
Posted @ May 30th, 2008 at 6:50 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkChris Robley
says:I like Radiohead CDs. That sounds nice in between sets at the Crystal Ballroom.
Posted @ May 30th, 2008 at 7:17 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkOuiMan
says:Oh gee, Portland is full of half-rate musicians who get by on their “quirkyness” (read: unlistenability). So some dude who makes a bit of flavor of the week music says some stuff about some other dudes who make similarly flavor of the week music. Big deal, it’s all disposable. Take off the ugly-ass giant (and oh, so ironic!) sunglasses, and you might see it!
Posted @ May 30th, 2008 at 7:31 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkiZm
says:Casey,
Is this blog serious or is it a publicity stunt to make sure everyone remembers Easter Eggs pic and his awesome mix of a Ratatat song? It seems like your feeding the monkey….
there are so many people that do what Easter Egg does, and that have been doing it before him, and probably will be doing it after him, once he grows out of this stage of music. He’s young, and seriously to put all your eggs in one basket (pun intended) to depend on him to be this appreciative, humble guy, seems ludacris, lots of musicians and blog writers and DJs are stuck up cliquey people, who talk trash,but just because we didnt read about it on a blog, makes it irrelevent? Easter Egg is talented and I have played with him before, he got really wasted, was kinda obnoxious(and friendly), but he played his music, and acted his age. As far as im concerned nobody should place any social responsibility on the kid, I dont like what he said either, but thats his right to do so.
and how about the social responsibility of the promoters who hire DJs in this town? There are people hustling, playing dance music, buying records, equipment, etc who get overlooked because theyr not in the Hipster clique, write blogs, or wear skinny jeans, and its ashame because those are the DJs who keep it real, and actually MIX records,CDs, or MP3s through the skills they have honed after years of practice, and that should say something in the booking process.
Casey, Nilina, and a whole bunch of other people I wont mention have boosted Easter Eggs ego to a point, where for his age and skill, he can afford to be cocky after being called the “P-town Girl Talk” and giving him ultra props when him and a whole lot of other Hipster DJs havnt paid their dues as DJs at all, yet they get to play with all the great acts that come to town, while the Djs who have been doing this for a decade+ get to feel left out because they havnt networked in the right circles or got the certain so and so title of Portland. Im speaking personally here, Im sick of it, and this blog you wrote is a result of such things I mentioned.
On a side note, I hope it is apparent that I take no sides in this, Im just pointing out what I think in regards to what was written and the state of the scene in Portland, I have received accolades from Nilina and Casey alike and I appreciate all the great press I have received in the WW over the years, I will continue to play with Easter Egg as it seems fit, and hopefully I can be a positive influence on the way he grows as a performer..
Sincerely,
Posted @ May 30th, 2008 at 7:59 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkJeff Hansen aka DJ iZm
gaylords
says:shit. this needs an outside perspective. im not from portland. im not a fucking hipster. i dont blog. east’r egg happens to be a myspace “friend” and his shit is sometimes dope. sometimes played the fuck out.
i happened to read his bulletins and now have read this open letter/response post. in egg’s first bulletin about this benefit jawn, he essentially says that he’s not so into it: the crowd’s not gonna be feeling it and he’s not gonna feel the crowd. this is very understandable as a Dj/laptop DJ/PA/whatever. you dont want to bore the people there and you don’t want to be bored doing it. his first bulletin where he “thinks” he might do the show, had no hateful or condescending tone. he was just doubting/debating whether he should do the show… then he sends a bulletin about getting “canned” because of that first bulletin???
i think the organizer girl sensed he didnt want to do it but probably drew other conclusions. it just doesnt make sense that she would get “bashing” out of that first bulletin. Egg is presumptuous in saying that the crowd’s not gonna like him, but that may be his insecurities playing him. what we know of what was said to the organizer girl over the phone is hearsay. the organizer girl has yet to personally respond or get quoted in blogs.
Egg was kinda out of line with “So whoever was in charge of this show (I think it was a bunch of high school hipsters that really got into “indie music” after Garden State … I send a big FUCK YOU.” –you should have chilled for a minute before posting that.
then…. in a followup drunken bulletin-”Seriously though, that would be the worst crowd I’ve ever played for. I can’t play for Portland hip hop heads because they’re too serious about life to have fun, and I can’t play for YACHT fans because they’re too gay and hip to dance to music that hasn’t been praised by Pitchfork.
So for real though, fuck that bitch Galia for even trying to can me from a show I didn’t even agree to do in the first place. Sorry Galia, but I’m all about fun, not shitty pretentious hipster fests.
—also not cool.
but then again… being that i’ve read your bulletins and peeped your blog… i kinda get your humor. hipsters are a fucking joke. hip hop heads are too serious for their own good…but your own production/mashup crap is gimmicky and a fucking joke as well. but it’s fun. good partytime shit.
people are taking this way too serious…. Casey, Egg, now even me.
As for Casey. you’re right for sticking up for your scene. high five. but i think you kind of blew this out of proportion. this was obviously some petty beef over a misunderstanding and misinterpretation of some stupid myspace bulletins. this was beef between egg and organizer girl, not egg and the city of portland. i dont think you should have gotten that involved. and really you should be careful of libel.
peace in the streets
Posted @ May 30th, 2008 at 8:01 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinktravis
says:funny, on the intro that remix instantly reminded me of yacht and paper television.
Posted @ May 30th, 2008 at 8:22 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkDave Allen
says:So I ended up through a series of hoops and jumps MC’ing the show tonight. Bottom line…a sold out Crystal Ballroom, great music from Shakey Hands, Typhoon, State of Mind, Yacht, Sand People and Blue Scholars and more. There was never going to be room in the bill for Easter Egg to perform between sets anyway; I hardly had 2 minutes to introduce each band. So Mr Egg steps over the line and I think he made a serious mistake…but..he gets antsy, gets abusive..isn’t that so 2008? He lashed out and he may be wrong as I don’t have the facts, but a little forgiveness goes a long way. I was over it when I heard about it. He has talent, I like him, I’ll continue to work with him. He will hopefully take this as a lesson in small city politics. I got shit on when I arrived here in 2000…..I eventually worked it out. Portland Schools won tonight—a great concert all around. End of non-story.
Posted @ May 31st, 2008 at 12:42 am (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkDave Allen
says:BTW Casey, you can’t have your cake and eat it. You’re either the editor of Local Cut or you’re not….no get out unfortunately as you are reporting on a rather serious story that could affect Easter Egg’s career….he may be wrong, he may be unjustly attacked, he may have stretched the bounds of decency, he may be a dick but you get paid by the W Week to report and post, right? I’m not sure there’s a get out clause here….I too get paid to write and report but I passed on this story as I’m my own editor and I thought it was a non-story.
Posted @ May 31st, 2008 at 1:02 am (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkKris Strackbein
says:Casey Jarman, you rule. I will never deal with this douche bag in the many places I work with and adventures I have going on here in Portland that could help him. It took me *years* to get to where I am here, and cannot appreciate anyone who doesn’t understand the meaning of hard work getting you to where you belong. Thanks SO SO SO much for your help. (and Chris Robley, I agree!)
Posted @ May 31st, 2008 at 2:52 am (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkKris Strackbein
says:and now that I’ve read Dave Allen’s comments, maybe I *should* be lenient. I had tons to learn here too. Don’t know if I can do it though. I would like to see what comes of it first, I suppose.
Posted @ May 31st, 2008 at 3:04 am (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkconcerned reader
says:Okay, thought I’d step in here. Dave, YOU are a bit out of your league here. Talk about having your cake and eat it too,….when I don’t see Gang of Four news posting on your blog is when I’ll start taking it seriously. I don’t read your writing for music news, and I don’t watch Fox News for world events. Simple as that.
If someone like Hunter Thompson can craft a career based on his editorial rants, I feel Mr. Jarman is beyond due to let off some steam. Ignorance and arrogance are a dangerous combination (especially with someone who’s talent is “mash-up”), and no surprise your stepping in here to defend. Two things you suffer greatly from.
Casey,….get a back of drugs, an illegal lawyer and hit the road. Rant on!
Posted @ May 31st, 2008 at 1:16 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkFM
says:iZm:
Good words - but for the statement: “Casey, Nilina, and a whole bunch of other people I wont mention have boosted Easter Eggs ego to a point, where for his age and skill, he can afford to be cocky.”
Casey, Nilina, and a whole bunch of other people might have expressed encouragement, support, and enthusiasm (which is a good thing if it is authentic) - and it was Egg who took it to the ego level.
Since I do not know all parties involved, I perceive that Egg is still in the adolescent mind-frame of “it’s all about me.”
No, Egg, this was about the Portland schools and community and Casey had every right to take Egg’s stance to the “Portland” level.
And that said, you were so right saying: “and how about the social responsibility of the promoters who hire DJs in this town? There are people hustling, playing dance music, buying records, equipment, etc who get overlooked because they’re not in the Hipster clique, write blogs, or wear skinny jeans, and its a shame because those are the DJs who keep it real.”
Portland RUNS on small-town politics and cliques.
Exclusion, exclusion, exclusion.
Here’s to the real!
Posted @ May 31st, 2008 at 2:05 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkCASEY JARMAN
(post author) says:Dave is right that WW is ultimately responsible for anything I say on this site, and however faux-official that disclaimer sounded I just wanted to make sure people knew this was an open letter from me. I talked to two of my editors about this before I posted it, and I fretted an awful lot before posting, which is why it took two days to do so.
I’ve never written anything like this on LocalCut before, and I hope I don’t ever feel compelled to again. Yesterday morning I had all but decided to either not post it or seriously revise what I had said and intersperse it with Egg’s own comments. He beat me to the punch in that department and posted it on his own blog. At that point—and after seeing two more bulletins/blogs from him that were more offensive than the two that prompted me to write this—I thought altering what I said originally (now public record anyway) would just seem like an unfair retaliation. I added his comments, clicked publish, and headed down to the Crystal for a great show.
It was Nathan (Egg) that put all this stuff in public to begin with. He had three or four chances to make things easier on himself and he knew I was probably going to post something here, but he kept smearing people after talking directly with me. I honestly think he now realizes that these were mistakes, whether or not he issues a public apology or whatever. I got a partial apology from him today covering some stuff and sticking to his guns on some other stuff. I’m not going to publish any more emails but I don’t think he’d mind me saying that much. I appreciated getting it and I hope he sent Galia something like that as well. (It should also be noted that he has since deleted the offending blogs from his MySpace site.)
This obviously won’t and shouldn’t ruin this kid’s career. Every artist who attains a degree of celebrity (on whatever level) has an “oh shit” moment where they realize that it’s not just their own group of friends who are listening anymore. I’m sure Dave could attest to that idea and probably has some great/horrible stories about it. My favorite songwriter, Elvis Costello, started off a self-described asshole. Then he called Ray Charles the N-word in a bar argument. A reporter was nearby. It was to shock the guy he was arguing with, he says, but you can imagine how long it took to live it down.
This clearly isn’t on that level. And of all the great things about Portland, there’s another one: We’re open-minded. I’m willing (and I think pretty much everyone else is, too) to write all this off as a young dude who doesn’t realize the effect his words can have. I already have. I’ll continue to judge Nathan on the quality of his work, and I’ll try to make sure any other WW writer does the same.
Dave, as to your comment that this was a non-story, I totally disagree. If Colin Meloy sent an email blast or posted a blog that said “fuck you, Portland” (or “fuck you, James Mercer” for that matter) I’m pretty sure we’d write about it. LocalCut’s whole mission statement is to treat local artists based on merit, not on record sales or hype, and hold them to the same standards we’d hold anyone else to. That doesn’t mean dragging the private out into public—I’d like to keep things as positive and constructive as possible. But this was so damn egregious, offensive, repeated and public that it deserved comment. If we’re going to talk lovingly about an artist when they impress us, we should show our displeasure when they fuck up huge. Anything else is PR.
I still think it would take three words from Nathan to clear this whole thing up for anyone reading this. “I fucked up.” (Jeez, how many times have I had to say that here?) He already told me that. He said he bashes everything all the time, and he doesn’t really mean it, it’s just part of his sense of humor and personality. He said he forgets that he has 1300 MySpace friends and not just the handful that he started out with. That doesn’t explain everything for me, but it’s certainly enough to give him a second chance. The internet, as I’ve said before, makes people mean to each other.
And lastly, the show was great. I saw Dave shooting video, and saw that there was some footage of Yacht’s set (really fun and really sweet) over at pampelmoose.com. Y’all should check it out. I hope he posts footage from the Shaky Hands (maybe the best set I’ve ever seen them play) and the State of Mind set, especially, because it was amazing seeing like 800 kids go crazy for local high school hip-hop.
Posted @ May 31st, 2008 at 2:28 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkiZm
says:I think everyone has valid points here, as far as “concerned reader”, give me a break, pampelmoose.com is a staple in the Portland community providing Portlanders and the world with a great Portland perspective from a legend in the post punk music scene, who supports the WHOLE local music scene (not cliques) via written word, MP3 dwnloads, and video, whereas they might not have gotten that exposure at all, and what better way to promote local music and give it a little more validity than to boost your own musical accomplishments that scan the globe. I am grateful for pampelmoose as a source of music news, not nearly to be compared with faux news such as Foxnews, come on, really.
and FM, I appreciate you seeing my perspective.
“Casey, Nilina, and a whole bunch of other people might have expressed encouragement, support, and enthusiasm (which is a good thing if it is authentic) - and it was Egg who took it to the ego level.”
I agree that support, encouragement, and enthusiasm are great nurturing tools for an artist, but in reality, like I said in my rant, these artists, need to pay dues to be humbled. I have had to pay dues in NY and Portland, and regardless of where its led me, Im humbled and more professional because of it, thats all. Easter Egg desrves props for what he’s doing. The Portland schools deserve a fair chance without being bashed. I just think that if we as artists and promoters and writers are a little more cautious and dont just give in to every whim for every flavor of the month, then we could have a greater scene composed of unity and respect.
Posted @ May 31st, 2008 at 3:44 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkCASEY JARMAN
(post author) says:Hey iZm. You’ve said plenty of stuff that I think is totally valid and stuff we try to think about a lot. But sometimes somebody is just really good at their chosen musical trade right off the bat. Deciding whether to give them press or room to grow can be a difficult decision, and I could certainly be accused of choosing the former at the expense of the latter a number of times. But I’ve never done so out of looking for the “next big thing,” always out of sheer excitement for the group/artist. And in Easter Egg’s case, not only was he doing something cool, he was doing something we hadn’t seen a lot of out of here in Portland. So we all got excited. I think he’ll continue to do stuff that gets us stoked on his music. But yeah, there’s somewhat of an apprenticeship that usually needs to happen with young artists, you know? I see a lot of that in Portland (White Fang and Adrian Orange are examples, to me, of young artists who had help and support from more established musicians to make sure they came up the right way and also stayed totally independent). I think people are reaching out to Nathan in that way, too, and it’ll be good for everyone involved.
Anyway, I just wanted you to know that I’m not ignoring the thoughtful stuff you said here. I appreciate it and the conversation is better for it. I think the good thing that comes out of all this is conversation. The pop list used to be an awesome space for that to happen, and I’d love to find better ways for WW/LocalCut to facilitate these kind of dialogs. Meanwhile, this seems as good a place as any to me.
Posted @ May 31st, 2008 at 4:38 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkDave Mandell
says:You could set up a webboard. Webboards are all the rage with the kids these days.
Posted @ May 31st, 2008 at 5:28 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkJay Horton
says:In what possible world would everyone connected with this post not be considered hipsters? Baffling. Whom exactly are these hipsters you speak of?
Posted @ May 31st, 2008 at 5:57 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkchybe
says:How can you hate hipsters and wear bandanas on your face?
Posted @ May 31st, 2008 at 8:57 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkDave Allen
says:Casey, yes with hindsight I’d say you’ve got a story but my point really, that I should have made more clearly, is that I have no room for negativism on my blog if I can help it. That’s why I didn’t run with this one. I think Nathan should come out and apologize and I believe he is contrite and realizes he made a mistake (but hey, unlike that guy from the Shins at least he didn’t beat up a girl!) Here’s an email I got from Nathan today……I hope he finds it in himself to apologize, not here on LocalCut but to whoever he’s dissed and perhaps hurt. This all part of maturing and finding yourself in a city that’s ready to jump any little flaw that folks have. All will be well, I know it.
From: “Nathan Pham” ( I edited this out so Nathan doesn’t get hate mail)
Date: May 31, 2008 2:47:07 PM PDT
To: dave.allen@pampelmoose.com
Subject: Hi Dave
I first off wanted to say thanks for standing up for me on localcut. I appreciate that and everything else you have done for me as an artist. You’ve done a lot for me and I don’t know how to pay you back. I’m just glad that you understand that this was a big fuck up. I can’t say anything that will justify my actions and I know I was wrong, but I honestly didn’t mean any harm. I’m hoping the city of Portland will give me a 2nd chance. I read about how you said that Portland shitted all over you when you first came in 2000, and I had dinner with a local DJ last night who said he was in the same situation when he was new to town, and he said that I can make things better.
I’m not sure where I’m going with this, but I mostly wanted to say thanks for everything.
-Nathan
Posted @ May 31st, 2008 at 9:14 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkDave Allen
says:PS - Shaky Hands Video coming soon….
Posted @ May 31st, 2008 at 9:16 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkDave Allen
says:Dear Concerned Reader,
You missed the point I think. I was calling Casey out on the fact that he said that what he wrote about was “his own opinion and not that of Local Cut or W Week”. I merely pointed out that the forum he was using and the fact that he’s paid to use it meant he was a bit ham-strung when it comes to a statement like that… so yes, no get out clause.
As my blog is my blog and doesn’t accept advertising and isn’t a business per se I feel that I can write about Gang of Four, although there will be very little of that in the future as I am no longer in the band. So when you write “when I don’t see Gang of Four news posting on your blog is when I’ll start taking it seriously. I don’t read your writing for music news, and I don’t watch Fox News for world events. Simple as that.” I realized that you probably don’t read my blog anyway.
I don’t really cover music news, I just share links, MP3s and videos of stuff that I believe people will enjoy and usually without much comment. If you like music there’s around 545 free and legal MP3s you can grab if you like. And last night’s concert…which is where all this BS started, raised roughly $18,000 for music in Portland Schools! That’s something to be proud of Portland I’d say. I’m looking forward to 2009 and the next one as I’m all about supporting music in schools.
So Concerned Reader, I’m happy to be “out of my league here” as you say, I’m actually proud and happy to be doing something positive for the music community in Portland. And you? You just want to remain anonymous I suppose so you can snipe from the bushes.
Posted @ May 31st, 2008 at 9:33 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkidunno
says:i dunno
Posted @ May 31st, 2008 at 10:24 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkmy whole take on things these days in these realms is when someone is being a punk ass bitch and talking shit semi-publicly (sending bulletins 1300 myspace friends aint all that..who reads those things anyway) the best thing to do is let them burn their own bridge. no need to drag it out into the public eye. just never vouch for dude again. if its like you say and other people had things to say in private about dude, well then, the bridge is half burned already. seems like everyone has to learn that being a dick doesn’t get you very far in this music game. there are too many talented nice people out there ready to take their place. assholes, no matter how cool their music may be, always lose. music is a team effort. say what you will about his music but there is a reason YACHT are getting attention. dudes are consistently NICE.
you gotta be nice in this business. that goes for everyone, including the press.
shit just begets more shit. being an asshole to an asshole just makes the world more smelly.
its hard not to get bitter. its easy to let the shit talk get out of hand instead of focusing on Positive Growth.
i think its highly irresponsible to post all this shit. now that it is done, think Casey needs to appologize to this Egg dude in a big way. Sure he was talking shit on some myspace bulletin, but this blog is gonna be a lot more google-able and around a lot longer that that shit. you came back on him too fucking strong. you don’t stab a dude to death for pushing you, unless you want to send a message to the streets or something. if he’s someone that pushes people, soon enough people wont want to be around him, and that gives dude a chance to get himself correct.
Stay Posi
Statutory Ray
says:What a fucking douche. Here’s the proof in one of his cyclic quotes:
“I personally am not too concerned about playing for “huge crowds.” The first few shows I pkayed were house parties for friends and those were great. I’m still having fun playing club shows and such but I don’t have this crazy dream of going on tour and headlining huge shows. If a friend asks me to play their house show, I think that’s amazing. Right now, I’m not willing to take anything I can get. I’ve learned to be picky, and why? -Douche”
Dear Douchebag, let’s deconstruct this:
First, you’re tossing around the “I’m not too big to play parties” shit, which implies that you would be doing the party a favor, and not the other way around. You’re *hot shit* so it’s an honor to have you lug in all of your equipment and get in the way of the keg. HOWEVER…
… you have no dreams of playing “huge crowds” which implies that you’re only in this for the cause and that you’d gladly turn down Summer Jam to keep your day job and play parties for your seal-of-approval-getting friends BUT…
…y ou’re being “picky” which implies that you: A) Realize that anyone in your shoes has the potential for success/failure, and B) see yourself as “above” gigs on 82nd and/or in your buddy’s trailor.
Wanna know what I think? Too bad, youre gonna hear it anyways:
You’re a megalomaniacal douche who lives in his own head, insisting in a cliche-like fashion on everything ever uttered by a failing artist, aka “I’m not above playing parties, but I’m picky,” and the TRUTH of the matter about you and “the press” is that Willy Week, with due respect to the paper that’s supported plenty of my own friends/associates, is a goddamn FREE PAPER. One-half jerk off mag and other half “gee, what’s at Clinton Street.” YOU’RE NOT ON THE COVER OF SPIN. Shut up. This isn’t “press” to anyone outside of Stumptown (the roasters, not the city limits) and no one fucking cares about your opinion on the hard working bands that salvaged economic and social capital to give YOU an opportunity. The only reason I’m even commenting is because your reply to the Jarmeister smelled so heavily of menstrual fluid that I thought I had a potential date. Too bad she had a dick, eh?
Quit playing the star status shit. You and the rest of the WhoTheHell..? genre can sit around all day long and bash bands/artists that you might not like, but the bottom fucking line is that there are PLENTY of people in line willing to take your place.
Fuck, I’d spin a six-minute set between sets in a gresham bar with Jason Simm’s band and Ryan Manhole if it meant the potential for one more fan/networker. You’re an unappreciative egotistial self-focused shit that’s obviously overconfident in everything BUT your performance/product.
Speaking as a DJ (pro) and a musican (far from pro), I’d take any gig offered to me, basement or otherwise, unless I was forced to choose between gigs in which case I take the $. I’d LOVE to play a “huge crowd,” and have the confidence that someday I will be able to if I make the right moves, and I respect bands of all genres, or any performer willing to stand up in front of a crowd. You know what I fucking hate? hipsters. But you know who I respect? Any hipster with the balls to stand in front of a crowd and perform his/her set while showing appreciation to the people giving them the opportunity.
Fun fact: In the amount of time it took you to bitch and moan about your little write-up, you could have played a full set and moved one step towards commercial OR underground success.
Instead you pissed off the head music writer for the only free publication not doubling as toilet paper.
Nice job. Enjoy the open-mic circuit.
Posted @ June 1st, 2008 at 5:00 am (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkemily cable
says:I don’t buy that because he’s just a young dude trying to have fun (what, he’s 21?), his offensive comments and behavior can be at least partially justified away. There are plenty of young artists in town who are gracious and respectful and who don’t act like complete dipshits. Kudos to Casey for writing this and making Easter Egg accountable.
Posted @ June 1st, 2008 at 11:14 am (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkAnd really, Easter Egg couldn’t at least write Galia’s name in his responses? She’s just refered to as “that chick”. The whole thing is so condescending.
Voice of Reason
says:I cannot for love of all humanity understand why someone would call this talent. I just went to his myspace page and thought I’d have a listen to his stuff (proof that bad publicity can bring people to your music) but alas. All I heard were other peoples tunes!?!?!? Then I sat there and tried to wrap my head around the fact that he can sell this shit as his own product!?!? At least there was a point where I thought to my self “at least I like this tune. It’s a good song” then the dreaded mashup. I almost threw my computer at the wall.
Sounds like he’ll continue to cut his own throat anyways.
Posted @ June 1st, 2008 at 12:51 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkCASEY JARMAN
(post author) says:you’re entitled to your opinion on that, for sure, and mashups are probably the most divisive thing on the planet right now (aside from hillary/barack and iraq and stuff). but there’s definitely some excitement around here for his stuff, and from what i understand, more of it out-of-town. dangermouse came out of the mashup game and now he’s one of the most in-demand producers around, so this kind of thing can definitely lead to other ventures, too…
and for the record he hasn’t been selling his music he has just been giving it away for free. which is cool.
Posted @ June 1st, 2008 at 3:30 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkEaster Egg
says:I don’t really have negative things to say about anything who commented here, I actually am hyped that some people stood up for me, but let me explain to the “voice of reason” here.
I don’t sell “my” music, and for these reasons:
No matter how much I tweak it, it will never be “my” music, rather it is my own “sound collage” I created using OTHER people’s music.
Also, I want people to hear my stuff, and what better way to do so than give it away for free?
I never claimed that mash ups were original, it’s just that I’ve always wanted to make music, and this is about as far as I can take it. I’ve played around with production and I’m getting better at it, but I’d rather do these megamix things. It’s so fun hearing a song and trying to take it and use it in a whole new context. To be honest, I don’t really listen to other people’s mash ups (with the exception of GT of course) but I still have respect for them. It’s far from song writing, but it still takes a certain ear and a little bit of passion, or a few minutes of free time, whichever.
-Nathan
Posted @ June 1st, 2008 at 6:35 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkNick
says:I think everyone could benefit from going here: http://www.kunja.dhamma.org/.
phew…
Posted @ June 1st, 2008 at 6:44 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkadam
says:if you haven’t you guys should check out this dude JIB KIDDER who makes highly weird and original mashup style stuff. has a mixtape out on statesrights (for either free podcast or as a CD-r mixtape) and a new record of weird cut ups and stuff coming soon
stuff on his myspace http://myspace.com/jibkidder
and on the statesrightsrecords.com site
if you like easter egg you may just like this dude too… i dunno im no expert on these things
Posted @ June 1st, 2008 at 7:00 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkNILINA MASON-CAMPBELL
says:I think Voice of Reason may have been referring to Nathan’s earlier claim:
“…they both asked why I don’t sell my music.
“You stand out over a lot of other kids who do this sort of thing right now, you could make a lot of money off your music.””
when talking about his ability to sell music - more at odds with the claims of people Nathan was quoting than the reality of his giveaways
Posted @ June 1st, 2008 at 7:29 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkwhite fang
says:we’re not even getting in the middle of this
Posted @ June 2nd, 2008 at 3:06 am (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkClara Ridabock
says:This is ridiculous. Basic rule of the music industry: you get what you give. Treat people like crap, call their music shit, disrespect the promoters, don’t expect to ever get work in this city. Your relationships and connections are so important. No one likes the pretentious guy who thinks he’s too good for a crowd. Fyi, the crowd are the people who matter. Not you. Try deflating your ego a little, Nathan.
Thanks for calling him out, Casey.
Posted @ June 2nd, 2008 at 9:09 am (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkegg
says:I think people are missing the point here. I guess with my quotes it makes it seem like I felt that I was “too good for the crowd” but if you read everything in detail, you would’ve noticed that I wasn’t comfortable with the show. I felt like it was a little out of my league to do a sold out show at the Crystal when I’m used to small club shows or house parties.
Also, saying negative things isn’t a huge deal, everyone has bad stuff to say about something, but the fact that I am a (very small) part of the local music community now, I can’t say anything bad about it, especially publicly. My bad.
Posted @ June 2nd, 2008 at 9:55 am (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkJesus Christ
says:The problem with Nathan is not that he has a huge ego; many performers have huge egos. His problem is that he has a basic inability to grasp the true power of words. There are people like him running rampant all over the Internet, with no sense of decorum or consideration, spitting vile at anyone whom they deem oppressive to their personal goals and slowly eroding the sense of civility that humanity has slowly built over thousands of years.
So, Nathan, stop updating your MySpace and read something that will help you. Start with George Orwell’s “Politics and the English Language.” Here’s a link:
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm
Oh. And Dad says “Hi!”
Posted @ June 2nd, 2008 at 10:20 am (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkNILINA MASON-CAMPBELL
says:Well Nathan’s most recent comment seems like he’s the one still missing the point.
“Also, saying negative things isn’t a huge deal, everyone has bad stuff to say about something, but the fact that I am a (very small) part of the local music community now, I can’t say anything bad about it, especially publicly.”
well 1.) what was said wasn’t just simply “negative things” - they were debasing. At the expense of others. And 2.) it has nothing to do with whether one is a part of the local scene or not. It’s just basic human decency.
I love all the hypocritical excuses that have been cycled through at this point. Know when to stop.
Posted @ June 2nd, 2008 at 1:54 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkegg
says:“And 2.) it has nothing to do with whether one is a part of the local scene or not. It’s just basic human decency.”
But would this really be here on local cut if I weren’t part of the music scene? If I were a local bystander who posted this rant via Myspace, then I’m sure it wouldn’t be here. Casey probably couldn’t have even come up with a clever title. I admit, I got a smirk out of the current title for this post, but what would he do if he only knew me as Nathan, the dude who rants on the internet?
Posted @ June 2nd, 2008 at 2:11 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkKiala
says:Grrrr. He apologized.
He’s a good kid.
I can’t even imagine the sheer volume of stupid things I must have said
yesterdayat his age.Let’s leave it be, now. Hug it out or whatever.
Posted @ June 2nd, 2008 at 4:08 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkGregory
says:You are just Nathan who rants on the internet.
Take care of your child, asshole.
Posted @ June 2nd, 2008 at 4:31 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkMICHAEL MANNHEIMER
says:“But would this really be here on local cut if I weren’t part of the music scene?”
No, it probably wouldn’t, but the fact is that Nathan IS a part of the music scene, and no matter what the type of libel posted on his Myspace (which anyone can find with a quick google search) is totally unacceptable. I hope he learns from this whole experience, because kid’s got some talent—let’s just hope in the future that he puts it into his music and not taking cheap shots at a benefit concert.
Posted @ June 2nd, 2008 at 4:57 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkPeter R. Walters
says:This is why the NY Times calls Portland “Sincere City”
Posted @ June 5th, 2008 at 8:56 am (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkwhatever
says:he shouldn’t have to be apologizing here, who gives a flying fuck that he called out a benefit show. so what? boo fucking hoo pps needs a fucking benefit show because ALL OF YOU ASSHOLES HERE REFUSE TO PAY HIGHER TAXES THAT MIGHT JUST ALLOW MUSIC IN SCHOOLS, SALES TAX ANYONE? i’m sorry that portland is stupid enough to require a benefit like this…
Posted @ June 6th, 2008 at 3:56 am (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalinkps. nathan don’t ever apologize, fuck the haters
pps. that $18000 should be going to something more worthwhile in the music community here in portland like stumpclub
fun farm animal facts
says:fun farm animal facts…
You must put a lot of work into blogging this much!…
Posted @ July 10th, 2008 at 10:07 pm (May 30th, 2008) | Flag this Comment | permalink